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so now you have karl rove and the others. republican primary voters are the ones that have chosen these people. it's a conservative group trying to take over. this is the most interesting group in america today. i would say this. parties lose elections. i have never seen in all the years in politics that had a party go from defeat in a president election to worse and worse and worse. to being wrong on issues, to being devicive. i can't think that there's many americans today with all of these internal, vicious fights is incapable of governance. >> when you look carely at his stances, he boegsed about anti-gay groups. he suggested soets shouldn't tolerate same-sex marriage, won't say if they should be protected under the immigration law. so even with the moderate kind of image as a savior, when you dig into the details policiwise, very conservative kind of guy. no question, it reminds me of a great philosophy of the 20th century with whom you were familiar, henny youngman and his great line, how's your wife? >> compared to wha
so now you have karl rove and the others. republican primary voters are the ones that have chosen these people. it's a conservative group trying to take over. this is the most interesting group in america today. i would say this. parties lose elections. i have never seen in all the years in politics that had a party go from defeat in a president election to worse and worse and worse. to being wrong on issues, to being devicive. i can't think that there's many americans today with all of these...
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don't rely on a karl rove or reince priebus. the state chairman really has the opportunity to vet the candidates up front and to build the party from the bottom up and inviting those activists who are frustrated to be a part of the process. >> how do you democrats exploit this? we have the republican establishment disdainful of its right wing and trying to prevent it from getting any candidacies. >> how do we exploit it? >> yeah. >> you remember the old rule from lee atwater, when the opponent is self-destructing get out of the way. >> that goes back to napoleon. >> well lee atwater made it famous in our world. he's right. for the democrats, you watch these guys and you see on the one hand they've lost the middle which is great for the democratic party because everything they lose we pick up. on the other hand, they're attacking their base, which is going to result in not victories for moderate candidates who can win general elections, but it's going to result in right wing candidates getting their backs up, getting in these pri
don't rely on a karl rove or reince priebus. the state chairman really has the opportunity to vet the candidates up front and to build the party from the bottom up and inviting those activists who are frustrated to be a part of the process. >> how do you democrats exploit this? we have the republican establishment disdainful of its right wing and trying to prevent it from getting any candidacies. >> how do we exploit it? >> yeah. >> you remember the old rule from lee...
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a candidate that perhaps karl rove will steer away from. paul broun, the georgia congressman running to replace saxby chambliss, and "the times" pointed out today, quote, mr. broun, a physician on the house science, space, and technology committee, attracted attention last fall for saying that, quote, evolution, embryology, and the big bang theory, all of that is lies straight from the pit of hell. i'll bet that plays well in his congressional district, but my hunch is that's not playing well even in a conservative state like georgia when you're talking statewide in the general. what do you say? >> well, of course, paul is going to get a lot of competition in that primary fight. you're going to be looking at guys like tom price and tom graves who have an incredibly strong record of fiscal conservatism. i think the core of the tea party, remember, is not social issues, it's not abortion, it's not immigration, it's not these other things. it's whether or not we should spend money we don't have. it's whether or not the government should live w
a candidate that perhaps karl rove will steer away from. paul broun, the georgia congressman running to replace saxby chambliss, and "the times" pointed out today, quote, mr. broun, a physician on the house science, space, and technology committee, attracted attention last fall for saying that, quote, evolution, embryology, and the big bang theory, all of that is lies straight from the pit of hell. i'll bet that plays well in his congressional district, but my hunch is that's not...
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>> you're talking about karl rove? >> i'm talking about karl rove. >> that is, it seems to me, john heilemann, a good question to ask. you go to karl rove, a guy that just got pasted in this last election. i know karl, i like karl. >> part of the past 20 years. >> he got pasted, and also some conservatives brought up, he was part of the bush administration that people like peg -- i'll say it peggy noonan, myself, others think destroyed the conservative movement by spending us into record debt. >> and you're seeing, you know, the immediate reaction among some parts of the conservative movement, parts of the tea party, more populist part of the party, attacking the group, saying that he's the karl rove and his allies, they have a bad record to run on and that they're deviating from the principles of true conservatism and they want to back sellouts. i think the main thing you're going to see over the course of this next cycle is a further deepening of the schism between the two kind of pieces of the republican party. the
>> you're talking about karl rove? >> i'm talking about karl rove. >> that is, it seems to me, john heilemann, a good question to ask. you go to karl rove, a guy that just got pasted in this last election. i know karl, i like karl. >> part of the past 20 years. >> he got pasted, and also some conservatives brought up, he was part of the bush administration that people like peg -- i'll say it peggy noonan, myself, others think destroyed the conservative movement by...
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you're karl rove. not a good guy necessarily, but a smart guy. you're haley barbour. you're chris christie, one of these thoughtful people in the republican party you can argue. how are you going to stop these people from running if fay want to? >> cash. >> how do you stop them if they have money behind them? >> money talk, right? in f you don't want this guy to win and you've got the koch brothers and you have allison there, that's why they have a pac, right? >> that worked well for romney. here is the deal money can't buy you, authenticity. >> they're authentic, i hate to tell you. they're the real thing. >> they're authentic to the point where -- if you're authentic in your irrationality, great. you'll appeal to the irrational people. but when this guy says the earth was formed -- hold on. when the earth was formed 9,000 years ago and we started farming 10,000 years ago, it's insane. >> we have to come back to the fact that they have a base, that people like this have been elected. >> exactly. they have been. >> you know, i look at mourdock, he won. i like at akin,
you're karl rove. not a good guy necessarily, but a smart guy. you're haley barbour. you're chris christie, one of these thoughtful people in the republican party you can argue. how are you going to stop these people from running if fay want to? >> cash. >> how do you stop them if they have money behind them? >> money talk, right? in f you don't want this guy to win and you've got the koch brothers and you have allison there, that's why they have a pac, right? >> that...
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gop donors are turning to karl rove to help weed out far right candidates in upcoming races. really? isn't he the guy who blew $300 million in the last election? whose super pac had a 1% success rate? yeah, that guy. and, boy is the tea party upset. freedom works slammed rove's group saying the empire is striking back. calling him orwellian. it's full-on gop warfare. it's gop civil war. joining me now is michael steele and dana millbank. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> good to see you, rev. >> michael, karl rove to save the party from the tea party, do you buy it? >> no, i don't. and i don't think many of the not just tea parties, but grass roots conservatives will. instead of taking those dollars out of the states and hunkering them down here in a newly created super pac in washington, how about investing in the state party organizations around the country to help them build the farm team that is going to be required to win in the future. this is not an overnight success deal, reverend. you cannot come from the s shellacking of '06 and '12 and throw dollars
gop donors are turning to karl rove to help weed out far right candidates in upcoming races. really? isn't he the guy who blew $300 million in the last election? whose super pac had a 1% success rate? yeah, that guy. and, boy is the tea party upset. freedom works slammed rove's group saying the empire is striking back. calling him orwellian. it's full-on gop warfare. it's gop civil war. joining me now is michael steele and dana millbank. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >>...
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karl rove wants to keep the fringies. and things like clinton did with school uniforms. and tell college students the jobs might be tough. what about the gun issue? should the republicans stick with the nra or tell wayne lapierre to get a real job? how could a party built other the decades on the people who left the democrats abandon those issues that attracted the rule south and the west people and the miners and the ranchers and the gun owners. and the people furious about immigration. how do you ban those people and keep a party? tonight an expert, a passionate believer that politics can get better. my colleague joe scarborough. here's the question. how do you keep this huge tent the republican party has built in the last 30 or 40 years with people from the south, the west, the miners, the ranchers, the religious right, all those people that have decided the republican party is their natural home and yet you have people in the fringe costing you your image. >> well, you've got to stand up to people on the fringe. you know, when parties go extreme they get roundly defe
karl rove wants to keep the fringies. and things like clinton did with school uniforms. and tell college students the jobs might be tough. what about the gun issue? should the republicans stick with the nra or tell wayne lapierre to get a real job? how could a party built other the decades on the people who left the democrats abandon those issues that attracted the rule south and the west people and the miners and the ranchers and the gun owners. and the people furious about immigration. how do...
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realized that karl rove redistributed their wealth. there will be a wider appeal in the extreme candidate even though they don't all think that rape victims should be entitled to an abortion. do you think rove should win with this using the same ideology with a different hat? >> it depends on if your definition of win is "make more money." you said it yourself. he woke up that morning with a lot of explaining to do. the his explanation was that we have to push back against the todd aiken and grover norquist. you do this by you giving me money and i buy up a lot of air time etc. i can understand the impetus but karl rove, basically he's a snake oil salesman and this was the eastest easiest thing for him to sell. the party is in big trouble. what appeals to the constituents in these districts does not appeal to a broad swath of americans. karl rove is finding the angle in which to make a lot of money and i suspect he will win in that regard. >> john: he takes their money and bernie madeff sands in awe. sam seder and joe williams, thank y
realized that karl rove redistributed their wealth. there will be a wider appeal in the extreme candidate even though they don't all think that rape victims should be entitled to an abortion. do you think rove should win with this using the same ideology with a different hat? >> it depends on if your definition of win is "make more money." you said it yourself. he woke up that morning with a lot of explaining to do. the his explanation was that we have to push back against the...
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just want to -- a quick word i mention to susan page about karl rove forming this new pac. it's called the conservative victory fund. and last year, karl rove had such a disastrous record that he spent $400 million lost the presidency they lost ten out of 12 senate races. they lost four out of nine house races. all of that money spent against democrats so now he's going to form yet another pac and spend this money in the republican primaries against republicans that he doesn't like, particularly tea party members he doesn't like. i love satisfying republicans eat each other alive. but i think this does pose a couple of important questions. number one after his record of blowing $400 million last year, why would anybody trust karl rove with a dime? and two, i want to know -- i want to know, damn it, how much money is karl rove making off these super pacs. you know he's not working for nothing. i'll get he's getting 10%. i'll bet he got $40 million out of that super pac last year. now he wants even more. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." armed with the facts, and t
just want to -- a quick word i mention to susan page about karl rove forming this new pac. it's called the conservative victory fund. and last year, karl rove had such a disastrous record that he spent $400 million lost the presidency they lost ten out of 12 senate races. they lost four out of nine house races. all of that money spent against democrats so now he's going to form yet another pac and spend this money in the republican primaries against republicans that he doesn't like,...
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i think you'll see, you know, the new karl rove group, as you will, the new conservative party influence recruitment of candidates that speak across -- you know, that appeal to a broader group of people. >> right. >> but the point here, i think there's sort of three things. you mentioned this. there's people in candidate recruitment, right? which is like don't recruit people who say wildly offensive things about rape, that is a new principle for candidate recruitment. then there's the ideal center of where the party is and then there's the tactical choices made about cooperation. >> do you think there's changes at one and three, but not a lot of changes at two. >> so i want to talk about which of those three things are changing after we take this break. ladybug body milk? no thanks. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. it's so powerful you can skip a day... but light enough you won't want to. dermatologist recommended eucerin. the end of trial and error has arrived. try a free sample at eu
i think you'll see, you know, the new karl rove group, as you will, the new conservative party influence recruitment of candidates that speak across -- you know, that appeal to a broader group of people. >> right. >> but the point here, i think there's sort of three things. you mentioned this. there's people in candidate recruitment, right? which is like don't recruit people who say wildly offensive things about rape, that is a new principle for candidate recruitment. then there's...
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entitled karl rove is done. reads in part this. now comes the likes of senators such as ted cruz of texas and rand paul of ken tuck tow challenge him. smart, angry and aspect establishment conservatives who loathe the country club types and want to remake the parties in the isolationist in the antisocial welfare and anti-tax image, conservatives have the right to ask the roves of the world to ask what the gopers have done to limit the reach of government and enhance the libertarian view of the world. the answer to the rand pauls of the world is nothing. >> that was a long paragraph. >> and you take a guy like ted cruise, he went it a community college in texas or was it harvard? this rove ad suggests quite a few things. mitch mcconnell is concerned about ashley judd. >> he is concerned in general. he is a power here in washington and who i covered back when he was county judge in louisville. he has never been wildly popular in the state. he always had a tough race even when he hasn't had significant opponents and he's on a fault li
entitled karl rove is done. reads in part this. now comes the likes of senators such as ted cruz of texas and rand paul of ken tuck tow challenge him. smart, angry and aspect establishment conservatives who loathe the country club types and want to remake the parties in the isolationist in the antisocial welfare and anti-tax image, conservatives have the right to ask the roves of the world to ask what the gopers have done to limit the reach of government and enhance the libertarian view of the...
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rove is trying to do. >> the fringiness. the fringies being upset by the establishment. really quick here, lori montgomery. boston globe reporting there might be a romney that gets in this senate race. do you think that's realistic or silliness? >> you know, i can't imagine that the romneys -- >> your tone says it all. >> are up for another one of these. >> who do you have, ravens-49ers? >> i'm an eagles fan, so once they're not in contention, i stop paying attention. i got to go with the ravens, see ray lewis finish on top. >> lori? >> if playoff joe flacco shows up, i think the ravens win. if regular season joe flacco shows up, not so much. >> thanks to both of you. just over to hours from kickoff down in the big easy and also two hours from the biggest of the year in advertising as well. we'll give you a preview of the ads to watch for in between the plays. first, though, a teenage girl just back from her trip to washington to perform with president obama's inauguration gunned down in chicago. a senseless tragedy that put
rove is trying to do. >> the fringiness. the fringies being upset by the establishment. really quick here, lori montgomery. boston globe reporting there might be a romney that gets in this senate race. do you think that's realistic or silliness? >> you know, i can't imagine that the romneys -- >> your tone says it all. >> are up for another one of these. >> who do you have, ravens-49ers? >> i'm an eagles fan, so once they're not in contention, i stop paying...
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. >>> speaking of twitter, it's how donald trump is going after karl rove. he called him a total loser and enkournl enkour encouraged people not to give to his group. >>> i'm going to try to be brief because i notice you're on your fourth glass of water and i don't want to be accused of waterboarding you. >>> stephen colbert is expected to be an annual guest at the democratics annual retreat. >>> the 113th congress, kitty kelley is approaching with a positive bias. >>> and mo cowan sworn in yesterday. it's the first time two black ten sors have served at the same time. but in five months a special election will decide his replacement. >>> requests for information for chuck hagel is unprecedented. the vote will be delayed. >>> if you read one thing only this morning, it's going to be a great weekend to hibernate. my must read is a list of the 100 best movies available on dvd. all you need is the popcorn. it's up on our facebook page at facebook/jansingco. so, beginning today, my son brock and his whole team will be our new senior social media strategists. any
. >>> speaking of twitter, it's how donald trump is going after karl rove. he called him a total loser and enkournl enkour encouraged people not to give to his group. >>> i'm going to try to be brief because i notice you're on your fourth glass of water and i don't want to be accused of waterboarding you. >>> stephen colbert is expected to be an annual guest at the democratics annual retreat. >>> the 113th congress, kitty kelley is approaching with a positive...
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but why do they still have karl rove on their payroll? that's what i want to know. can't get everything right, i guess. have a good one folks. see you back here tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: hello current tvland. well, it's official jacki schechner i will never be secretary of defense. >> how come? >> stephanie: they are holding up his nomination among other things they want some information about someone in his office that sexually harassed someone else. >> oh, and you would be more directly involved. >> stephanie: yes. >> i'm pretty sure chuck hagel never had to make that call the next morning. >> stephanie: oh to jacki? sorry, i know you are straight. >> i'm less worried about myself and more worried about t-bone and chris. good morning, everybody, white house counter terrorism chief and cia director john brennan will head up to the hill today for his confirmation hearings. he is facing tough questions. some congressional committees had access to a memo in june but now that it has been made entirely public, it is raising all sorts of concerns abou
but why do they still have karl rove on their payroll? that's what i want to know. can't get everything right, i guess. have a good one folks. see you back here tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: hello current tvland. well, it's official jacki schechner i will never be secretary of defense. >> how come? >> stephanie: they are holding up his nomination among other things they want some information about someone in his office that sexually harassed someone else....
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the big question is why do they still have karl rove on the payroll? into that and a whole lot more on the "full court press." first we get the latest, today's current news update, standing by in los angeles, here's lisa ferguson. hi lisa, good morning. >> hey bill. good morning everyone. chuck hagel will have to wait a little while longer before take up his new position as secretary of defense. the senate armed services committee had hoped to hold a vote as soon as today but now that's being delayed. after last week's hearing republicans say they want more information on hagel's speeches and his financial disclosures. until then they are opposing the vote but the committee chair is still hoping to schedule one as soon as possible. in idaho, a republican state senator is introducing a bit of an obscure bill requiring every single high school student to read ayn rand's novel. when asked why he chose that particular book, senator john getty said it because it made his son become a republican. he said it gives high schools an alternative way to adopt grad
the big question is why do they still have karl rove on the payroll? into that and a whole lot more on the "full court press." first we get the latest, today's current news update, standing by in los angeles, here's lisa ferguson. hi lisa, good morning. >> hey bill. good morning everyone. chuck hagel will have to wait a little while longer before take up his new position as secretary of defense. the senate armed services committee had hoped to hold a vote as soon as today but...
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karl rove going to be on the broadcast tomorrow night. he wants to set up some kind of organization to urge republicans to be a little bit more moderate. that has teed okay some tea party and right wing radio people. has that filtered in to the political system in washington? are they listening to that debate or is it just a media thing? >> it's definitely a lot of the media thing. also a little bit different. what mr. rove and his group would say it's not about finding more moderate candidates but about finding candidates that can win elections. the g.o.p. lost last year and they're regrouping. this isn't all that new for either party. exactly what democrats have gone through when they have been defeated and republicans have held the white house. the rnc and outside groups like roves crossroads g.p.s. what they want to do is recruit candidates not only win conservative primaries but also win a general election as well. >> everybody wants to do that there has got to be some kind of change in the republican party, i think. >> crossroads, s
karl rove going to be on the broadcast tomorrow night. he wants to set up some kind of organization to urge republicans to be a little bit more moderate. that has teed okay some tea party and right wing radio people. has that filtered in to the political system in washington? are they listening to that debate or is it just a media thing? >> it's definitely a lot of the media thing. also a little bit different. what mr. rove and his group would say it's not about finding more moderate...
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. >>> karl rove has a new super pac but it's not being used against democrats. check out the headline. rove declares war on tea party. after embarrassing senate defeats in missouri and indiana, rove's american crossroads has created the conservative victory project. that's a group the "new york times" says will back candidates and incumbents from challenges by far right conservatives and the tea party. let's bring in former democratic congressman from pennsylvania, retired navy admiral joe sestak and we're also joined by republican strategist and former santorum senior strategist, john brabender. here's what steven law, president of american crossroads said. quote, there is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected. we don't view ourselves as being in the incumbent protection business but we want to pick the most conservative candidate who can win, end quote. is he right there, or is this an act of war like breitbart says in the headline? >> i don't think it's an act of war. what they're saying is
. >>> karl rove has a new super pac but it's not being used against democrats. check out the headline. rove declares war on tea party. after embarrassing senate defeats in missouri and indiana, rove's american crossroads has created the conservative victory project. that's a group the "new york times" says will back candidates and incumbents from challenges by far right conservatives and the tea party. let's bring in former democratic congressman from pennsylvania, retired...
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and two, i want to know how much money is karl rove himself making off of these pacs? you know he doesn't work for nothing. i'll bet he gets 10% of every dollar he raises. come on, karl! tell us the truth. how much money are you pocketing off of these super pacs? folks, go out and have a great day. we'll see you right back here again tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: who is our first caller today? oh, she gets a sherry's berries gift card -- oh no you are not a caller. you are here every day. good morning, jacki schechner. >> i want a sherry's berries gift card. >> stephanie: hey, john kasick just undouched himself. he is going to accept the obama medicare medicaid expansion. >> amazing. i love when governors and lawmakers do things that actually benefit the citizens of they state. >> stephanie: right. the only reason not to do it jacki is you are a douche. >> pretty much. and you want to be like rick scott. >> stephanie: it's a technical term, douche. here she is jacki schechner health care geek of the current news center. >> good morning, everybody, presi
and two, i want to know how much money is karl rove himself making off of these pacs? you know he doesn't work for nothing. i'll bet he gets 10% of every dollar he raises. come on, karl! tell us the truth. how much money are you pocketing off of these super pacs? folks, go out and have a great day. we'll see you right back here again tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: who is our first caller today? oh, she gets a sherry's berries gift card -- oh no you are not a caller. you are...
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. >> it has to annoy you that karl rove gets to stay on. he was a guy saying the election result on the night was wrong. they had to stand up. kelly had to stop running down the corridor. >> the divorce isn't final, but i am seeing other people. >> fox news' ratings have plummeted since the election. quite dramatically. down 22% in the key demographic. and in prime time, down 40% in the demo, it's lowest demo number since may 2006. it seems from the outside, and they would do this to us, that fox has got some real problems right now. one of the reasons is that they just called this election so badly wrong. and they may have driven the party and mitt romney down the wrong alley. >> apart from whether you blame fox or not, i'm not going to get into that. but i believe that the republicans were horribly hurt among women by the crazy extremists who said that rape won't make you pregnant and it's an act of god. on the other hand, democrats are hurt by those who say third trimester abortions are fine. abortion should be rare. and we have to under
. >> it has to annoy you that karl rove gets to stay on. he was a guy saying the election result on the night was wrong. they had to stand up. kelly had to stop running down the corridor. >> the divorce isn't final, but i am seeing other people. >> fox news' ratings have plummeted since the election. quite dramatically. down 22% in the key demographic. and in prime time, down 40% in the demo, it's lowest demo number since may 2006. it seems from the outside, and they would do...
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the big money super pack led by former president bush senior adviser karl rove is going hollywood. not far from the glamor of the red carpet, ashley judd. >> be a part of maintaining change and progress for our beloved country. >> has been auditioning for a new role, candidate. >> i will go wherever the president wants me to go. >> consider that a welcome gift to big time politics. >> someone from out of state who understands us hillbillies. >> courtesy of karl rove ad team super pac. >> there are a lot of democrats in kentucky that are really pumping air into the ashley judd trial balloon for the u.s. senate run. this is kind of a fun way to prick the balloon and show people she might not be the candidate she's cracked up to be. >> using judd's own words and her current home address. >> someone who will never forget where she came from. >> it just clicked, tennessee is home. it just clicked -- >> kentucky. >> -- is home. >> judd was center stage at tennessee for the democratic convention. >> we are here to cast our lots with barack obama. >> but if she runs in her childhood home,
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. >> it's got to annoy you that karl rove gets to stay, though, doesn't it? >> piers -- >> he was a guy saying the election result on the night was wrong. they had to stand up and make him -- megan kelly had to stop running down the corridor. >> the divorce isn't final, but i am seeing other people. >> and i'm very grateful you are. what's interesting about fox news is their ratings have really plummeted since the election. really quite dramatically. down 22% in the key demographic. in january. the lowest demo number since july 2008. and in prime time down 40% in the demo. its lowest demo number since may 2006. it seems from the outside, and they would do this to us, that fox have got some real problems right now. and one of the reasons is that they just called this election so badly wrong. and they may have driven the party and mitt romney down the wrong alley. >> well, apart from whether you blame fox or not, i'm not going to get into that. but i believe that the republicans were horribly hurt among women by the crazy extremists who said that rape won't mak
. >> it's got to annoy you that karl rove gets to stay, though, doesn't it? >> piers -- >> he was a guy saying the election result on the night was wrong. they had to stand up and make him -- megan kelly had to stop running down the corridor. >> the divorce isn't final, but i am seeing other people. >> and i'm very grateful you are. what's interesting about fox news is their ratings have really plummeted since the election. really quite dramatically. down 22% in...